ext_13022 ([identity profile] katallen.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] hawkwing_lb 2012-04-29 05:33 am (UTC)


I wasn't clear enough -- why does it matter to *you*? You have formed an opinion -- why have you bothered to form an opinion about a man you do not know and whose works you have no intention of reading? Why does it matter, to you, if he considers himself to be a feminist? Why do you feel the need to ask me my opinion of whether he is a feminist (especially as I had not at any point discussed his feminism but was talking about my own)

And similarly why should it matter to me if Bakker is a feminist or not is my clumsy was of asking why it should matter to me that a person who I do not know, whose work I will probably not read, and who so far as I know has no more influence than any other person who has published an mid-level SFF book if he is a feminist or just calls himself a feminist?

We are commenting in an entry about Bakker's feminism or lack thereof; this seems to be the topic proposed by our hostess.

I think you'll find that I am commenting in an entry of which at least half is not about Bakker at all (except perhaps very indirectly) and which also contains a quote about Bakker not being a feminist because he didn't understand that to be a feminist writer you have to write positively for and about women. I responded to how that definition of feminism was forcing a definition of feminism on Bakker which I would also have difficulty meeting, and that I resented that being done to me.

I wonder if you are implying here that I am exclusionist or want to put people in boxes?

I guess then I should take this statement as implying that I was lying when I identified you as an inclusive feminist? That I am not responding honestly to your comments but in some way maligning you, a total stranger who I smilied at! Me, I thought I was making the point that dichotemous questions are often used for less than wholesome purposes, and that that is why I'm not overly fond of 'simple' yes/no answers for questions like 'are you a feminist?'. If it was meant to be an implication it would have been a very indirect one -- and I have absolutely not reason not to have made it more directly or simply accused you as you just accused me.

It's curious, that when I ask you a direct question about why you think the question 'is bakker a feminist' is important, or should be important (the question was never about him but about your asking it)... you duck an answer, accuse me of an implied insult (well I presume you considered it an insult), annouce you have no quarrel with me and that I am free to have an opinion on something I've stated I don't have an opinion about and that you have a right to your opinion, which I have not at any point questioned (although I do reserve the right to question why certain people feel the need to force their opinions and definitions on others -- including Mr Bakker)





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