Plato, Apology, 28b - 28c middle
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hawkwing_lb[28β]ἴσως ἂν οὖν εἴποι τις: ‘εἶτ᾽ οὐκ αἰσχύνῃ, ὦ Σώκρατες, τοιοῦτον ἐπιτήδευμα ἐπιτηδεύσας ἐξ οὗ κινδυνεύεις νυνὶ ἀποθανεῖν;’ ἐγὼ δὲ τούτῳ ἂν δίκαιον λόγον ἀντείποιμι, ὅτι ‘οὐ καλῶς λέγεις, ὦ ἄνθρωπε, εἰ οἴει δεῖν κίνδυνον ὑπολογίζεσθαι τοῦ ζῆν ἢ τεθνάναι ἄνδρα ὅτου τι καὶ σμικρὸν ὄφελός ἐστιν, ἀλλ᾽ οὐκ ἐκεῖνο μόνον σκοπεῖν ὅταν πράττῃ, πότερον δίκαια ἢ ἄδικα πράττει, καὶ ἀνδρὸς ἀγαθοῦ ἔργα ἢ κακοῦ. φαῦλοι ’
So perhaps someone would say, "Then aren't you ashamed, O Socrates, practicing such business out of which you risk now to die?" And I in this I'd answer a just argument, that, "You don't speak well, O fellow, if you suppose it's necessary for a man to take account of danger of life or of death, of whom there is even a little merit, but not to consider this only, whenever he may accomplish something, whether he accomplished justice or wrongdoing, and the work of a good man or an evil one.
‘ [28ξ] γὰρ ἂν τῷ γε σῷ λόγῳ εἶεν τῶν ἡμιθέων ὅσοι ἐν Τροίᾳ τετελευτήκασιν οἵ τε ἄλλοι καὶ ὁ τῆς Θέτιδος υἱός, ὃς τοσοῦτον τοῦ κινδύνου κατεφρόνησεν παρὰ τὸ αἰσχρόν τι ὑπομεῖναι ὥστε, ἐπειδὴ εἶπεν ἡ μήτηρ αὐτῷ προθυμουμένῳ Ἕκτορα ἀποκτεῖναι, θεὸς οὖσα, οὑτωσί πως, ὡς ἐγὼ οἶμαι:
For in your argument, cheap would be those of the demigods who had met their end in Troy, the others and the son of Thetis, who so much despised danger alongside to abide any disgrace that, when his mother said to him when he was zealous to kill Hector, since she was a god, something like this, as I believe:
So perhaps someone would say, "Then aren't you ashamed, O Socrates, practicing such business out of which you risk now to die?" And I in this I'd answer a just argument, that, "You don't speak well, O fellow, if you suppose it's necessary for a man to take account of danger of life or of death, of whom there is even a little merit, but not to consider this only, whenever he may accomplish something, whether he accomplished justice or wrongdoing, and the work of a good man or an evil one.
‘ [28ξ] γὰρ ἂν τῷ γε σῷ λόγῳ εἶεν τῶν ἡμιθέων ὅσοι ἐν Τροίᾳ τετελευτήκασιν οἵ τε ἄλλοι καὶ ὁ τῆς Θέτιδος υἱός, ὃς τοσοῦτον τοῦ κινδύνου κατεφρόνησεν παρὰ τὸ αἰσχρόν τι ὑπομεῖναι ὥστε, ἐπειδὴ εἶπεν ἡ μήτηρ αὐτῷ προθυμουμένῳ Ἕκτορα ἀποκτεῖναι, θεὸς οὖσα, οὑτωσί πως, ὡς ἐγὼ οἶμαι:
For in your argument, cheap would be those of the demigods who had met their end in Troy, the others and the son of Thetis, who so much despised danger alongside to abide any disgrace that, when his mother said to him when he was zealous to kill Hector, since she was a god, something like this, as I believe:
