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As you may already know, O friends, I'm back home in Dublin. I have an amusing anecdote to relate to you all.

My grandmother, who is dying slowly, has been living in my younger aunt's house since her diagnosis, going on six months now with occasional hospitalisations. My mum and I have been visiting her there regularly. My aunt stands within the ranks of the comfortably middle class, with two houses (one of them rented out) and regular foreign holidays (i.e. more than one in any given twelve-month period), two resident daughters (both of whom are working), a kitchen filled with working appliances and no shortage in her fridge.

In all the time we've been visiting Gran, Aunt has never really offered us food even when eating herself - nor have we asked for it. So it came rather out of the blue on Saturday, just before she left the house, she said to us, "If you're ever hungry while you're here, you know..." she said.

"If you're ever hungry while you're here, you know, there's a café down the road past [X] supermarket."

That is so perfectly my aunt.

Do we have a lean and hungry look? I thought to myself. Have we ever asked for food you never offered?

It would never occur to her we might be broke: that my mother has been on sick leave for going on a year and my scholarship is not grandly large and has to cover a whole bunch of things, now. "If you're ever hungry while you're here, you know, there's a café!" (Or perhaps I am over-charitable in ascribing to indifference what could as well be malice.)

I am still laughing. Hospitality: YOU GIVE IT A BAD NAME. "If you're ever hungry while you're here!" For a moment I thought she might speak as I would, and say something along the lines of there's cold meat and yoghurts in the fridge and bread in the cupboard, help yourselves. But it was definitely not shocking to hear her speak otherwise. Entertaining! For it shall go down in the annals as an example of Hospitality: How Not To Do It. But not shocking.

There is a slightly more serious side now, of course. If she ever does offer food in future, we will be obliged to refuse. Having the depth of our unwelcome demonstrated means we must avoid incurring reciprocal obligations: there is no guest-friendship there.

But still, two days later, laughing. Is this not amusing?

Date: 2013-06-17 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jennygadget.livejournal.com
If you are laughing, I shall laugh with you. Although, I must admit that's not my first response.

Date: 2013-06-17 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] between4walls.livejournal.com
The first night I was in Russia last summer, just off the plane, not having changed money yet and the banks all closed for the night, my host said, "If you want dinner, there are restaurants down the street." Because I was totally up to figuring out where a restaurant was, let alone order in my bad Russian or figure out how to pay. I finally ate during lunch break at work the next day (chicken curry blini! It was worth the wait!). Good thing there was tea.

And a year later it's still funny. A lot funnier than it was then.

My mother claims that in Italy it's the worst shame to let a guest leave the house hungry. That's probably her idiosyncratic interpretation, but if I were your aunt, I'd worry. The gods don't take kindly to that sort of behavior...

(Either that or she's planning to do away with you all and doesn't want to incur obligations. Like Saladin didn't want Raynald of Chatillon to drink the water he intended for the thirsty King Guy, since he certainly had no intention of treating Raynald as a guest.... ;-) )

Date: 2013-06-18 12:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nojay.livejournal.com
There's an old Scottish custom of welcoming the afternoon visitor with "You''ll have had your tea?"

Date: 2013-06-18 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillnotbored.livejournal.com
There is nothing to do with people like that BUT laugh.

And while not universally true, I have observed that frequently people who have the most are the least likely to share. Not necessarily because they are selfish per se, but because it never occurs to them that others might not have as much.

Date: 2013-06-18 12:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tithenai.livejournal.com
That is completely ... It hurts my SOUL.

When you come visit and stay with us you are to understand in advance that the fridge is yours to freakin' RAID whenEVER.

Date: 2013-06-18 01:35 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] glinda-w.livejournal.com
I...

utterly croggled by this.

Am feeling guilty because I have a friend visiting this week, and finances being what they are, have to ask for help with the buying of food. I'm sure I mind this a lot more than my guest does.

In my family, you *always* offer something, even if it's only a cup of coffee and a slice of banana bread.

(I also see the amusing side of this. Very very darkly amusing.)

Date: 2013-06-18 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] txanne.livejournal.com
How do you eat in front of somebody without offering to share? "I have one stick of gum. Want half?" We learn this when we're three! (For "we," read "humans.")

Date: 2013-06-18 05:16 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sovay
"If you're ever hungry while you're here, you know, there's a café down the road past [X] supermarket."

τοίης οὐδέποτε Διὶ ξεινίῷ μελήσει, ἀλλ' Ἐρινύσι.

Date: 2013-06-18 05:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] green-knight.livejournal.com
I don't think my reaction would have been to laugh, but... oy, veh. If you want to control what people eat - because you have a limited supply of your favorite food and can't get more (particularly if you're eating gluten-free etc), or you've scrimped for/will be doing dinner with [special thing] and don't want it eaten yet, 'can I offer you some toast/cake/chocolate' in place of 'there's food, help yourself' is perfectly acceptable - but 'everything in the house is mine all mine and you can't have any' is... yeah.

I guess you know exactly where you stand with your aunt.

Date: 2013-06-18 06:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] desperance.livejournal.com
I am just sayin', but the first phrase I learned to understand in Taiwan was "Eat more!" Because that is what happens: you take your shoes off at the door, and sit down, and they start to feed you and they do not stop. Sometimes it's an effort, but, y'know. You're a guest. You incur obligations.

Date: 2013-06-18 01:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/la_marquise_de_/
That is extraordinary. I can imagine members of my father's family doing that -- though not all or even most. On my mother's side... They would be horrified. Welsh mothers and aunts and grandmothers and cousins live to feed people.

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